Espada vs Akatsuki

by lol1991 Mon May 25, 2009 4:26 pm

Another one

No holds barred. Only rule, the Espada can be harmed.

So, this one is also famous.

My two cents on this one...well, I can't really tell you yet. In speed, the Espada would win...a couple of months back. With Madara's aka Tobi's speed revealed, we can't make that judgment anymore. Plus, Madara seems immune to attacks. Itachi has Susano'o, which is also a incredibly strong defense. Pain has his six paths, and can create mini moons. And we still don't know what Zetsu can do.

On the other hand, recent Bleach chapters have shown us that Ulquiorra would need a heavy amount of damage to fall, and that Barragan can kill anything by breathing.

I really can't say. I'm tempted to choose the Espada.

by Chulance Mon May 25, 2009 4:31 pm

Check out Kyle Rayner vs Goku. Now than I'll have to go debate like crazy! Espada can be harmed I assume they can be seen? Espada win this easily since Ulqi has Cero Oscuras. It is very fast and destroyed half of the dome of Las noches read here.

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Cero_Oscuras

Barragan's breath kills all life and Madara has space wapring teleportion mixed with phasing but Espada have something similar to Shunpo and if they have prep they automatically go for Madara. It's best to include those who's powers and skills aren't clear such as Madara

by lol1991 Mon May 25, 2009 4:35 pm

If we exclude Madara, it's all over for the Akatsuki.

But if I had asked this question 1 year back, then it would be Espada.

Also, I forgot about Deidara's C4.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Exploding_Clay

It's micro bombs, to put it simply. There is no way the Espada can defend. And Ulquiorra can't regenerate from internal injuries.

by Chulance Mon May 25, 2009 4:57 pm

Espada have speed advantage and Ulqi's black cero. Ulqi and higher espada have enhanced Hierro meaning hardend skin. Ulqi has taken attacks far beyond Dedira's clay explosions without feeling any pain. I 2nd resserucon state his durability, speed and everything increases. He can speedblitz Deidra and the rest of Atkatsuki for that matter or use the Black Cero which dosen't require much charging.

by lol1991 Mon May 25, 2009 5:05 pm

If he breaths in the mini clay bombs, he looses. It's a cellular level attack.
The damage C4 inflicts is at a Cellular level. Hierro can't protect the insides.

And as for speed, we are assuming a team effort. Pain and Itachi can set up cover with Summoning, Shinra Tensei and Susano'o. Enough for Deidara to set up the C4.

And as for speed, instant teleportation kinda leaves sonido in the gutter.

But even with all this, Barragan and especially Stark (we are still to see his release) will still prove too strong. I'm here arguing this because I really like the Akatsuki, but in the end, I think the Espada would overpower them

by Chulance Mon May 25, 2009 5:08 pm

What I'm saying is speed advantage Ulqi can kill them all with black cero before Dedira can use C4 attacks. Again does Atkaruski and Espada just start a random fight or are they prepared? Ulqi would come in 2nd mode meaning he could get past all defenses at super speed he can use reitsu alone to defeat Hallow mask Bankai Icihgo in seconds.

by lol1991 Tue May 26, 2009 5:10 pm

Random fight.

And don't forget, the Akatsuki have the numbers advantage, both because of the 6 paths of pain, and because of the kage bushin.

by Chulance Tue May 26, 2009 6:43 pm

Yes but still Ulqi's black cero is an early to mid DBZ level attack a dimension shattering beam is a Buu like attack early DBZ level since it could only destroy half of the Las noches dome but it took Pain a long time simply to blow up Konohagakure(sp?)

by lol1991 Tue May 26, 2009 6:53 pm

It didn't take him that long. The chapter made it a bit too long for dramatic effect. It was under a 30 second charge time I would wager.

by Chulance Tue May 26, 2009 6:59 pm

going by that logic I can say Bleach can fire all attacks automatically because chapters made them slow for dramatic effecr. Ulqi busted half of a dimension super fast and Pain struggled to destroy a village which attacks is stronger?

by lol1991 Tue May 26, 2009 7:03 pm

I wouls say that most attacks in Bleach are pretty fast as well, but ceros normally take between 3 to 8 seconds, depending on the type.

Bala - automatic
Cero - About 5 seconds
Gran Rey Cero - 8 seconds
Cero Obscuras - 6 seconds
Bala Cero obscuras - 2 seconds.

these are estimations.

Pain Shinra Tensei, when fully charged, take about 25 seconds, if we count the time he takes to fly up to a high enough area. From the gorund, and risking self injury, about 15 seconds.

And then there's always cannon fodder.

by Chulance Tue May 26, 2009 7:09 pm

Yes so can we agree Ulqi's attacks are stronger and faster?

by lol1991 Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm

That's what the endless supply of Shadow Clones are for.

Itachi can make the hand signs so fast, not even Sharingan can keep up properly.

by Chulance Tue May 26, 2009 10:39 pm

Yes but ULqi can move faster than the speed of soudn Itachi can move fast but his hands are slisghlty blurred and Ulqi's attacks would wipe out the entire area killing all Akatsuki members there still human. Hidan the immortal could be split up or heck disintegrated

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