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Aang vs Kakashi
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Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:25 pm
Rules
1. Blood-lusted
2. Aang has all elements and can use ALL abilties related to elements
3.Aang starts in avatar state
Who wins?
1. Blood-lusted
2. Aang has all elements and can use ALL abilties related to elements
3.Aang starts in avatar state
Who wins?
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:53 pm
To start with, you can't say he can use ALL abilities.
Aang never used lightning or bloodbending if that's what you're getting at. Also, no where there does it state it's a full moon night.
That put aside, if he starts in AS, he's pretty much and elemental god. he can easily pwn Kakashi. HOWEVER, due to Kakashi MS cheat code, he can warp space and make Aang lose a limb or two, or even a head or full body.
Added consequence there's no more avatar after that since he died in avatar state.
Aang never used lightning or bloodbending if that's what you're getting at. Also, no where there does it state it's a full moon night.
That put aside, if he starts in AS, he's pretty much and elemental god. he can easily pwn Kakashi. HOWEVER, due to Kakashi MS cheat code, he can warp space and make Aang lose a limb or two, or even a head or full body.
Added consequence there's no more avatar after that since he died in avatar state.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:00 pm
It dosen't matter.
Aang is the Avatar and therefore wields the power to use ALL elemental abilties and side abilties.
Also Aang is the avatar he has avatar level powers. He said he can use ALL abilties so he can use blood-bending. He can use BB to mess with Kakashi and make him use Kamuai on himself.
Aang can also create an air-shield and Kakashi can't warp living organism's. He has not done so in the manga he's warped organic object's like Pein's missile.
Aang is the Avatar and therefore wields the power to use ALL elemental abilties and side abilties.
Also Aang is the avatar he has avatar level powers. He said he can use ALL abilties so he can use blood-bending. He can use BB to mess with Kakashi and make him use Kamuai on himself.
Aang can also create an air-shield and Kakashi can't warp living organism's. He has not done so in the manga he's warped organic object's like Pein's missile.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:00 am
Chulance wrote:and Kakashi can't warp living organism's
Dude...do you even read Naruto? First use was against Deidara. Nearly cost him is arm
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/09/
All the pages of the event.
Explanation of the Avatar State:
The Avatar State is a defense mechanism, in which an Avatar may freely access the knowledge and powers of all previous Avatars. This provides the Avatar with great powers, as well as mastery over all four elements (even if the Avatar has not yet learned all four bending disciplines).
Straight from Avatar Wikia. Should you chose not to believe me and the wikia, then:
http://www.watch-avatar-online.com/book-2-chapter_1.html
(lots of pop ups so be careful...ps, nostalgia on the op XD)
That's the ep the Avatar State was first explained. Jump a bit, it's around the end.
So, in short, if the previews avatars cannot do something, Aang can't access the info. Blood bending was developed by Hamma and ONLY Katara learned it. Don't BS me with shit like "she then showed it to Aang" or some shit, cause even if that would go, Katara's hatred of the ability wouldn't let her pass it on.
So, with all these together, tell me again why Kakashi can't warp him to death with MS?
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:19 pm
I made the rules and conditions of this fight.
It's the rules of this fight bloodlusted Aang can control Kakashi's blood and make him kamuai his own arms off. Aang can use air to move faster so it will be harder for Kamui to warp him to pieces or he can mask his precense under water
It's the rules of this fight bloodlusted Aang can control Kakashi's blood and make him kamuai his own arms off. Aang can use air to move faster so it will be harder for Kamui to warp him to pieces or he can mask his precense under water
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:22 pm
dude, I'm telling you Aang NEVER learned Bloodbending. It's the same as me saying
"Kakashi learned Thunder God Jutsu so he can teleport with it"
It just isn't fair.
"Kakashi learned Thunder God Jutsu so he can teleport with it"
It just isn't fair.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Vampire Knight Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:23 pm
yeah aang never learned or even used it.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by secor Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:30 pm
tis true, just because aang knows water bending doesnt mean he can bloodbend, its a technique invented by someone else that only one other person knows, to say aang can just conjure up the ability through murderous rage is irrational
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:37 pm
It dosen't you can alter rules for fights.
I can do a fight where Sasuke can use Tsuyuyomi even though he has not done it he is capable of it but if I don't state this he's limited to his normal abilties.
It's not fair? Wow Aang is the Avatar GOD of elements he blood-bends Kakashi to death or crushes him to death with metal-bending.
He can hide underwater in an airshield to avoid being kumaid to death and manipulate sand to create clones of sand to confuse Kakashi.
I can do a fight where Sasuke can use Tsuyuyomi even though he has not done it he is capable of it but if I don't state this he's limited to his normal abilties.
It's not fair? Wow Aang is the Avatar GOD of elements he blood-bends Kakashi to death or crushes him to death with metal-bending.
He can hide underwater in an airshield to avoid being kumaid to death and manipulate sand to create clones of sand to confuse Kakashi.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by secor Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:42 pm
HE NEVER LEARNED BLOODBENDING, IT IS NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF HIS ABILITIES, aangs span of abilities has nothing to do with the rules. u CAN add to the rules that he can do things (in that certain hypothetical fight) that he cant do, its ur thread, do what u wanna do, but u never said he can do things hes never learned, and when u start with that why even have characters that already exist? why not just create 2 characters and their powers and ask who would win with those powers? thats what ur doin anyway
thats why i dont like the VS forum in the first place, it allows u to create circumstances under which the person u want to win a battle can win, its completely devoid of anything real, meaning anything real within the material from which u decided to draw ur fight inspiration from in the first place
thats why i dont like the VS forum in the first place, it allows u to create circumstances under which the person u want to win a battle can win, its completely devoid of anything real, meaning anything real within the material from which u decided to draw ur fight inspiration from in the first place
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:59 pm
I made the rules of this matchup
Aang can bloodbend/metal bend ect.
I can't read what you said,
Aang can bloodbend/metal bend ect.
I can't read what you said,
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:08 pm
No he cannot. And if this is about that other thread, I admitted that Sasuke DIDN'T use Tsukuyomi. However, this is different. Sasuke CAN eventually learn it, because it is within the scope of the MS
Aang CANNOT learn bloodbending EVER, because the series is considered closed. At the end of the series, is powers are what they are.
He never used metalbending either. That's even worse. Toph was awesome because she was THE ONLY ONE who could do it. Her completely dependency on her form of Earthbeding to see, allowed her the clarity to do so. Aang, even if he did learn that scope technique Toph has, never mastered it to her degree, and never will, because he will never need it as much as she does
Aang CANNOT learn bloodbending EVER, because the series is considered closed. At the end of the series, is powers are what they are.
He never used metalbending either. That's even worse. Toph was awesome because she was THE ONLY ONE who could do it. Her completely dependency on her form of Earthbeding to see, allowed her the clarity to do so. Aang, even if he did learn that scope technique Toph has, never mastered it to her degree, and never will, because he will never need it as much as she does
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:11 pm
Aang can learn it he can all abilties and side-skills.
The creator of a match decides the rules.
Aang has access to all bending skills including blood-bending,sand bending, and metal-bending. By combining these three he owns Kakashi or he can hide in water and use tsunami waves to kill Kakashi.
The creator of a match decides the rules.
Aang has access to all bending skills including blood-bending,sand bending, and metal-bending. By combining these three he owns Kakashi or he can hide in water and use tsunami waves to kill Kakashi.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:23 pm
fine then. Then I refuse to debate. If you're going to pull a dictator rule on me, fine.
BTW, this means not you've won. I simply refuse to debate if your rules are unfair and completely devoid of reason.
BTW, this means not you've won. I simply refuse to debate if your rules are unfair and completely devoid of reason.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:34 pm
Okay fine with me.
I don't care since Aang can use ALL bending skills and ALL side abilities as he is the Avatar.
I don't care since Aang can use ALL bending skills and ALL side abilities as he is the Avatar.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Vampire Knight Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:40 pm
can i ask yo a serious question?
okay so you ask people vs's questions alot right?
but why?
if they dont agree you fight until they do.
its kinda pointless cause whoever you say will win you fight with anyone until the just agree to make you happy?
okay so you ask people vs's questions alot right?
but why?
if they dont agree you fight until they do.
its kinda pointless cause whoever you say will win you fight with anyone until the just agree to make you happy?
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:54 pm
Well personally I thought peopel would give up once I stated the reasons my guy would win but here it dosen't matter they just have DBZ in top tier when it's not.
Aang can win even without his sub abilties. He can simply kill Kakasih quickly or strip him of his powers with energy bending. He can also use air to be move quicker and faster so he's too fast for Kakashi to Kumai or create a fissure than close it up.
He can use sand to hide under as long as he has an airshield around him and he can create tsunami's to drown Kakashi and
Encase him in ice
Electrecute
Boil the water.
Aang can win even without his sub abilties. He can simply kill Kakasih quickly or strip him of his powers with energy bending. He can also use air to be move quicker and faster so he's too fast for Kakashi to Kumai or create a fissure than close it up.
He can use sand to hide under as long as he has an airshield around him and he can create tsunami's to drown Kakashi and
Encase him in ice
Electrecute
Boil the water.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:02 pm
I never said Aand couldn't win. I mearly refused to play by your rules.
Also, never did Aang or any past avatar use sandbending. It's something unique to the desert dwellers of the Earth Kingdom. But I'll let this one slide.
Aang is capable of more mass destruction while in the avatar state. However, kakashi being a ninja is a trained assassin. He can hide and wait for his chance to use his MS to warp him.
Also, never did Aang or any past avatar use sandbending. It's something unique to the desert dwellers of the Earth Kingdom. But I'll let this one slide.
Aang is capable of more mass destruction while in the avatar state. However, kakashi being a ninja is a trained assassin. He can hide and wait for his chance to use his MS to warp him.
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Re: Aang vs Kakashi
by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:10 pm
Dude Aang can use sandbending please come on just like he can use lightning if he focuses.
He hated firebending remember he can redirect lightning. This is blood-lusted there trying to kill him and MS is one of those godmoves where air-shields won't work.
Aang trained with the metal-bending girl. It's been a while I've seen Avatar so he can "sense" the earth and sense Kakashi can't fly. He can track him down create a fissure and close it down. Aan.g can summon a tornado around him to prevent Kakashi from clearly seeing him and Kakashi can only use Kumai once or twice and even that can kill him he has trouble warping fast moving objects
He hated firebending remember he can redirect lightning. This is blood-lusted there trying to kill him and MS is one of those godmoves where air-shields won't work.
Aang trained with the metal-bending girl. It's been a while I've seen Avatar so he can "sense" the earth and sense Kakashi can't fly. He can track him down create a fissure and close it down. Aan.g can summon a tornado around him to prevent Kakashi from clearly seeing him and Kakashi can only use Kumai once or twice and even that can kill him he has trouble warping fast moving objects
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by lol1991 Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:12 pm
it warps space. Do you realize that everything is located in space, elements included.
And you got me with that one. The girl is Toph. One of the main characters mind you
And you got me with that one. The girl is Toph. One of the main characters mind you
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by Chulance Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:23 pm
Yes I understand so it's one of those cheap moves.
Anyway Aang can sense earth due to his training with Toph. He's trained with Katara,Zuko, and the giant energybending turtle. he can locate Kakashi and fly and moev at super speeds with fire or air propeling him or both.
Anyway Aang can sense earth due to his training with Toph. He's trained with Katara,Zuko, and the giant energybending turtle. he can locate Kakashi and fly and moev at super speeds with fire or air propeling him or both.
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by lol1991 Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:13 am
Aang's "Super speed" Isn't that fast. And to use energy bending...let's just say it's the same thing has if...Kakashi used a technique that seals a certain jutsu element, and it also affects Aang's bending. I mean, what can Aang do eith energy bending? So far, it has only removed bending powers. No telling if it affects chakra.
But, even so. With the earth radar, if Kakashi isn't to far away, Aang should win.
But, even so. With the earth radar, if Kakashi isn't to far away, Aang should win.
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by Chulance Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:55 am
Aang can fly with firebending or airbending. He can create airshields to block attacks Kakashi's only method of victory is Kamuai. Sure he has copied 1000 jutsu but we can only go by what we've seen and while he has some strong moves.
Some of his strongest are close range aside frmo Kamuai. So we agree Aang owns Kakashi with his earth-radar?
Some of his strongest are close range aside frmo Kamuai. So we agree Aang owns Kakashi with his earth-radar?
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