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Post by justinlynch3 Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:15 pm

Velonica Orchedian (Tercera Espada) VS Katy (Hydro girl) VS Jin (Hydro)

3 water based. The 1st (Velonica) has a second ability of energy manipulation. The 2nd (Katy) is a pure water manipulator. And the 3rd (Jin) has a second ability of electricity manipulation.

Who would take this free for all match up. Discuss.
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Post by Chulance Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:43 pm

It's simple is it not?

Jin will win this in the end...actually no.. Katy wins.

Jin never learned the elemental shift.
Velonica either.

Katy did she can use all states of water, she can simply make them fight each other by controlling their blood, or taking it all out to kill them.
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Post by justinlynch3 Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:41 am

Katy certainly is more skilled with water, I'll agree 100% on that. Jin hasn't mastered all the ability's like Katy has, but he has been shown to have a stronger level of control then Katy. So far, we haven't seen anything to suggest this has changed.

Now this still is in no way a sure win for Jin though, but it would give him a greater chance. Even though, I'd have to agree with you Chu and say Katy would win. The only way she wouldn't is if Jin was to used that same attack he used on her before, and use it before she attacked him.

I'd give the odds as probably 90/10 in Katy's favor.

Don't forget this is a 3 on 3 fight though. If Velonica was to grab Katy's attention and then Jin made his move, it'd put Katy in a bad situation then.

You can't just look to the strongest character, there is often other factors at play.
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Post by lol1991 Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:03 am

Katy doesn't win

The thing about elemental shifts is that even if you aren't physically damaged, you can still be made to feel pain.

So, in this case, if Jin uses electricity on Katy, even if she is in water form and regenerates, the pain will be there and hurt her. Hurt her enough, and she can't keep her form

As for Velonica, she may have a chance, if she uses her energy manipulation and only resorts to her water powers to counter attacks
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Post by justinlynch3 Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:10 am

Good point.

Plus in Katy's case, elemental shifting may actually make things worse for her as it could makes Jin's electrical attacks more effective if anything. It should help her against Velonica though.
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Post by lol1991 Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:11 am

Well...depends

Remember Zulan vs Filipe back at the Shawkun arc?

I used enough mental effort to control Zulan's ice form, and forced him to shift back. If Velonica can summon that amount of mental energy...but I doubt she can. After all, Filipe is an omega level
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Post by justinlynch3 Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:17 am

Yes, there is that possibility, a unlikely one, but we can't tell unless we see the two in battle.

(Well I gotta go for a while, it's almost dinner time and I'm not even dressed yet, I'm still in the bed typing on the laptop Razz Then I got a little bit of stuff to do.)
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Post by Chulance Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:11 pm

Well wrong really.

Katy is water, while she feels pain in elemental shift. Think she controls liquid she can control blood, she goes liquid and makes Jin fight Velonica.

Yeah, after that she takes all the blood from the winner to kill them, or some other god like move.
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Post by justinlynch3 Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:16 am

Hercule Satan wrote:Well wrong really.

Katy is water, while she feels pain in elemental shift. Think she controls liquid she can control blood, she goes liquid and makes Jin fight Velonica.

Yeah, after that she takes all the blood from the winner to kill them, or some other god like move.

This fight recently and randomly came to mind for some reason, huh.

Anyway, what your saying might not be true Chu.

After all, don't forget, Katy can control water, but, so does these two. Also, Jin is related to Katy. Although Jin can't elemental shift (this has been do to his water/electricity combination) doesn't mean he can't counter act, or at least resist any effect Katy might try on his physical body. (such as taking control of him)

After all, Jin's core power was water manipulation, same as Katy.
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