Vegetto vs Gogeta

For those of you who think that Gogeta is stronger than Vegetto, you're wrong. Vegetto wasn't even trying in his fight with Super Buu because he wanted to get absorbed to save Gohan and the others. The Old Kai also states that the potara earrings are much more effective than the fusion dance taught to Goku by the Metamories or however you spell that. Vegito is the strongest character in DB and I don't count GT because it is non-canon and sucked ass.

Some say that Gogeta is stronger, but I agree that Vegeto is stronger as their fusion seems more "natural" and no need to waste time on some complicated and silly ritual.

As one of those rare members of this forum who accepts GT I'm a bit offended by that "is non-canon and sucked ass" statement. You got the right not to like it or even to accept it as a part of DB but in a discussion you need arguments. If you got some arguments why you don't like that part of "DB universe" feel free to write them (there is a lot of things I don't like about GT, but I also like a few things so statements like "it sucks ass" leave for DB LAM bashing ).
As for- who is stronger Vegetto or Gogeta...erm...it's hard for me to imagine what would the fight be like between those two because both entities are incredibly(by incredible I mean "I destroy galaxies") strong. You just gotta respect them both. (sry I just love "The rebirth of fusion! Goku and Vegeta!". ^^)
It is true that we haven't seen what Vegetto really can do, but that stands also for Gogeta. We can all just pick our favorites.
And now it is time for some fusion philosophy XD
What Old Kai said could also mean that potara earrings are much more effective in fusing the two entities. New entity can inherit some of the "flaws"(personal preferences, bad habits etc.) from both entities, we see that quite clear. As for the intense fusion technique I think that it just (if done properly) brings and combines the best from both sides making the new entity incredibly strong for a short amount of time.
Hope I didn't bore anyone to death.

ningen wrote:What Old Kai said could also mean that potara earrings are much more effective in fusing the two entities. New entity can inherit some of the "flaws"(personal preferences, bad habits etc.) from both entities, we see that quite clear. As for the intense fusion technique I think that it just (if done properly) brings and combines the best from both sides making the new entity incredibly strong for a short amount of time.
Hope I didn't bore anyone to death.

Yes I pretty agree with that, more powerful in terms of abilities which must not include the power level itself...

If we use some comparison logic, yes Vegetto should probably be a little bit stronger...
But anyway they are both AWESOME to me on their own way, just look at them on vegeta353658's avatar, LOOK AT THAT ART! no matter how many zillion times I watched episodes movies and EVERYTHING related to the original DB/Z/GT franchise I still feel that same kind of feeling whenever I see some good DB/Z picture/vid...that good old spikey DBZ look its just seeded into me, its like I'm born to like DB/Z...I know I said that million times but I just ENDLESSLY LOVE DBZ BY EVERY POSSIBLE ASPECT!!! and look now what are they doing to its story, to its style, to its whole meaning... (( (gosh I am sorry people I am just so easy to lost myself in these depressive moments )

P.S.
Oh and about GT I do agree we shouldn't be using words like "suck" for anything other than the DB LAM but I also don't count GT at least in terms of transformations, and its entirely out of my personal reasons...I don't say that I don't chose sometimes SSJ4 while playing Budokai and I don't say I dislike WHOLE GT, no way!!...but still I don't wanna count at least the transformations...

Thanks. My avatar is pretty awesome and you're not alone DTX, I was born to like DB/Z as well. I grew up with DBZ and I didn't even know that DB was the first in the series. My friends just told me to watch this great show called DBZ and I did. I liked it the first time I saw it even though there were a lot of re-runs. -.-

REVIVAL OF OLD TOPIC!!!

Though I also agree with Vegetto being stronger. Plus he isn't limited by time like Gogeta.

I'm gonna pick Vegetto! If Gogeta seemed stronger, thats just because Vegetto wasted time and tried to be absorbed. Gogeta just had to demolish Janemba and he did; Vegetto could have easily demolished Buuhan whenever he wanted, but he wanted to save his sons and Piccolo, so he had to mess around and get Buu desperate enough to absorb him.

In an actual battle between them, Vegetto would just need to outlast him, Gogeta would split apart into Goku and Vegeta again soon enough. I do believe that Gogeta would be able to damage Vegetto, but it wouldn't quite be enough.

That and I like Vegetto's design better!

Vegetto - Thanks Nikku!
Nikku - Yay!
Gogeta - {Little suck up!}

Vegetto's design is awesome.

Alright, in seriousness, the stronger entity is Gogeta, simply because the Fusion dance produces a stronger entity than the potara

However, Vegetto could most likely last out the 30 minutes. This is the key here. If he can, he wins, if not well...automatic loss I suppose

lol please let me take hit of what you're smoking.

Setsuna F. Seiei wrote:lol please let me take hit of what you're smoking.

It's called common sense and not having ADD when watching something
It's very easy to obtain

Didn't Elder Supreme Kai flat out say the potara earing are stronger the metamorian dance?

No, he said it was more EFFECTIVE

Effective doesn't mean just stronger.

Here Elder Supreme Kai say's even better can't argue with the manga

Setsuna F. Seiei wrote:lol please let me take hit of what you're smoking.

I also think Vegetto is stronger, but i like gogeta design more... His clothes are awesome

I don't understand you guys.
We don't even know about Vegetto's abilities and you say that he's stronger?
On what arguments you base it? He looks cooler?! That's not a valid argument at all. You can't compare them, because there are not enough information about the attributes and the qualities of the subjects you're comparing, thus making your statements purely subjective.

ningen wrote:I don't understand you guys.
We don't even know about Vegetto's abilities and you say that he's stronger?
On what arguments you base it? He looks cooler?! That's not a valid argument at all. You can't compare them, because there are not enough information about the attributes and the qualities of the subjects you're comparing, thus making your statements purely subjective.

Actually Ningen I like Gogeta better just Elder Supreme Kai stated on the manga page I hot linked that the kai fusion was better.

But better in which way? If you guys read some of the older posts in this thread (like mine for example) you could see some of the possible interpretations of that statement.

And one of the interpretations could be that vegetto is stronger than gogeta..

ningen wrote:But better in which way? If you guys read some of the older posts in this thread (like mine for example) you could see some of the possible interpretations of that statement.

Obviously stronger because if he wasn't what the hell would be the point of giving Goku to potara earing you saw how easily Goku owned Buu it was basically worst that 5 300lb 6'5 muscular dudes gang raping a little 95lb 4"11 Girl. but then Again the could be equal because it just the supreme kai fusion could be longer, but Supreme Kai was hoping he would finish Buu off in no time.

Heh, you have to see a bigger picture. When he said "stronger" it probably meant that the fusion\merging of the two entities would be stronger. And that's how it was and that was the point of the Potara earing. The time "handicap" and the bigger mind dualities that the fusion dance method has are eliminated in this case. But that doesn't mean that the Potara earing actually produces a stronger entity than the fusion dance method.
You probably mean how Vegito owned Buu...yes (although we didn't actually see much of Vegito's abilities (thus the lack of information about that entity)) but that doesn't mean that Gogeta couldn't do the same. The opponents he fought were actually much stronger than kid Buu. It all comes down to what lol'91 said- would Gogeta be able to finish Vegito in a such time limit.
More about Potara:

ningen wrote:
As for- who is stronger Vegetto or Gogeta...erm...it's hard for me to imagine what would the fight be like between those two because both entities are incredibly(by incredible I mean "I destroy galaxies") strong. You just gotta respect them both. (sry I just love "The rebirth of fusion! Goku and Vegeta!". ^^)
It is true that we haven't seen what Vegetto really can do, but that stands also for Gogeta. We can all just pick our favorites.
And now it is time for some fusion philosophy XD
What Old Kai said could also mean that potara earrings are much more effective in fusing the two entities. New entity can inherit some of the "flaws"(personal preferences, bad habits etc.) from both entities, we see that quite clear. As for the intense fusion technique I think that it just (if done properly) brings and combines the best from both sides making the new entity incredibly strong for a short amount of time.
Hope I didn't bore anyone to death.

Although now when I think about it the fusion dance also doesn't bring only good qualities, so I was wrong when I said that it just combines the best from both subjects.

^ Ningen you're well aware Super Buu was far above Kid Buu right?

Well, Gogeta fought Broly... perhaps the most powerfull character ever in the DBZ world!! For me, even more powerfull than Buu... but that is arguable...

^ When did he fought Broly? I forgot...

Setsuna F. Seiei wrote:^ Ningen you're well aware Super Buu was far above Kid Buu right?

Yes, sorry I meant Super Buu.
But if we're even gonna consider Gogeta then we have to consider his fights also, so there is no room for that "non-canon material" talk. Which means that both Janemba and Omega Shenron enter the scene. Both characters are obviously superior to Super Buu.

Janemba would be killed by Super Buuhan that why in manga not the anime Goku nor Vegeta fought him Anime just added extras. Janemba around Super Buu and Superbuutenks at best. Super Buu vs Goku and Vegeta was shown but not Goku vs Buutenks or Goku or Vegeta vs Buuhan.

If were going to use SSJ4 Gogeta why not let us use SSJ4 Vegito. =/