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Post by ningen Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:11 am

I hope that all who celebrated it had a good time.
Yesterday was my father's birthday so I celebrated that.
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Post by lol1991 Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:19 am

I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.
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Post by Jessica Raine Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:38 am

yeah I know all that stuff. I just prefer to think of 4th of july as the one day I'm patriotic. Though I still root for kobiyashi on the hotdog eating contest X D
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Post by justinlynch3 Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:12 pm

lol1991 wrote:I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.

I Actually didn't "learn" to say, that much in school. I mainly just memorized stuff for tests... and forgot it like a week later. Razz

It's only now reading your post that I remember that stuff. Laughing
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Post by ningen Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:11 pm

lol1991 wrote:I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.
I don't know if Vegeta was joking or not, but yeah we had a lesson about that among other things. Even if I never opened my book there is always TV or, oh, yes- the whole globalization thing. Like Tlaloc beautifully noticed it- it's the unofficial national holiday of the world.
But I don't understand why are you gettin' so worked up over it, you're not even from the US. You should be tellin' us about the Portuguese national holiday. Very Happy
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Post by lol1991 Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:19 pm

ningen wrote:
lol1991 wrote:I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.
I don't know if Vegeta was joking or not, but yeah we had a lesson about that among other things. Even if I never opened my book there is always TV or, oh, yes- the whole globalization thing. Like Tlaloc beautifully noticed it- it's the unofficial national holiday of the world.
But I don't understand why are you gettin' so worked up over it, you're not even from the US. You should be tellin' us about the Portuguese national holiday. Very Happy

It's just, the way they stood up for what they believe, and against tyranny and all, I have great respect for what those people fought for. The same about every other revolution really. The French revolution, the fight against the USSR (not counting the cold war thing. That was merely economical concern on part of the USA), and the Tibetan struggle are some of my favorite demonstrations of what human beings should act and believe in.
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Post by Venus Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:06 pm

I pretty much just slept most of the day. Sorry. Very Happy
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Post by ningen Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:08 pm

lol1991 wrote:
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lol1991 wrote:I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.
I don't know if Vegeta was joking or not, but yeah we had a lesson about that among other things. Even if I never opened my book there is always TV or, oh, yes- the whole globalization thing. Like Tlaloc beautifully noticed it- it's the unofficial national holiday of the world.
But I don't understand why are you gettin' so worked up over it, you're not even from the US. You should be tellin' us about the Portuguese national holiday. Very Happy

It's just, the way they stood up for what they believe, and against tyranny and all, I have great respect for what those people fought for. The same about every other revolution really. The French revolution, the fight against the USSR (not counting the cold war thing. That was merely economical concern on part of the USA), and the Tibetan struggle are some of my favorite demonstrations of what human beings should act and believe in.
Nationalities all over the world, throughout the history were and still are trying to form their own global society, republic, kingdom...call it however you like. Any other war, even those conflicts of religions are done because of some other reasons. I don't know what do you mean when you say- "the fight against USSR''.
The truth is that there isn't much difference between Nazism, USSR with it's "communism export" and the USA at the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21. So, you see, in the 20th there were several attempts to control the world. We will see what will happen with this "new world order".
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Post by secor Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:34 pm

^i see ningens got a telescope aimed at the future... it matters not that its foggy...

lol1991 wrote:

It's just, the way they stood up for what they believe, and against tyranny and all, I have great respect for what those people fought for. The same about every other revolution really. The French revolution, the fight against the USSR (not counting the cold war thing. That was merely economical concern on part of the USA), and the Tibetan struggle are some of my favorite demonstrations of what human beings should act and believe in.
different people fought for different things, although every one of them did fight to be free to do whatever the hell they wanted... AMBIGUOUS! cuz whos to say what they wanted?

to me the history of my country is like a bully victim hitting puberty n getting a ridiculous growth spurt... whos the bully now?

also, this!


awesome that a white person made that (or at least completely endorsed it)

michael moore is the man
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Post by ningen Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:29 am

secor wrote:^i see ningens got a telescope aimed at the future... it matters not that its foggy...
Heh, what we see now is like a dim image in a mirror.
I'm not a fortuneteller, I believe that our futures are not predetermined.
Nobody can be 100% sure when it comes to the future, but we all have our predictions(more or less based on the scientific ones).
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Post by Ha! Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:39 am

lol1991 wrote:
ningen wrote:
lol1991 wrote:I don't get it.

Didn't you guys learn about the war of Independence in History class. The great "Tea Party", George Washington, and the old "All mean are created equal" thing?

I'm from Portugal and I learned all that stuff. of course, it was only 4 years ago, so maybe I remember it more.
I don't know if Vegeta was joking or not, but yeah we had a lesson about that among other things. Even if I never opened my book there is always TV or, oh, yes- the whole globalization thing. Like Tlaloc beautifully noticed it- it's the unofficial national holiday of the world.
But I don't understand why are you gettin' so worked up over it, you're not even from the US. You should be tellin' us about the Portuguese national holiday. Very Happy

It's just, the way they stood up for what they believe, and against tyranny and all, I have great respect for what those people fought for. The same about every other revolution really. The French revolution, the fight against the USSR (not counting the cold war thing. That was merely economical concern on part of the USA), and the Tibetan struggle are some of my favorite demonstrations of what human beings should act and believe in.

For what they fought?... like one Englishman against other Rolling Eyes ...and it's all start for tea Happy - Page 2 Facepalm ...you call that a revolution... when behind that stands a mason's group. Rolling Eyes
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Post by ningen Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:34 pm

Those people weren't just from England. Over the time they felt less and less connected with their homelands. Tea was just a reason to start a war. (There is always a reason to start a war and a cause for war.) And a cause for war in this case was not the tea. Wink
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Post by Ha! Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:41 am

That wasn't a reason, that was a chance for mason to manipulate the people, which they have taken...
4th of july it's american's propaganda... it's like americans invent things, like freedom, independence, etc... Rolling Eyes

...and America is so young country, and it's behave like that, like spoiled brat. Laughing
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Post by ningen Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:52 am

Heh, but don't you see that that thing you call "a chance to manipulate" was actually took as a reason for the war. So, basically we mean the same thing. But the cause of this war, like I said, was different.
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Post by Ha! Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:52 am

...but I'm saying that there's no some real cause... it's all part of mason's manipulation... they want the dominion so they made a cause and wait for the "reason".

And something to add... American have most of %, German's blood, then Spanish, African, and then English ...but they call themselves American and speak english Rolling Eyes...would you now say, that they fought to free themselves from British?... but they left everything, only thing new is new control, mason's control Rolling Eyes

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Post by ningen Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:23 am

Every war has a cause. Whether it is real or not real to you that's another thing. Smile
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Post by lol1991 Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:30 pm

ningen wrote:Every war has a cause. Whether it is real or not real to you that's another thing. Smile

This is truth
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