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Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
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Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:52 pm
Just so we don't have to make two topics.
So far, in One Piece, we know that the only way to harm a logia is to take advantage of it's element's natural weakness. So, wouldn't it be reasonable that fire and heat are Aokiji's main enemies.
With that in mind, of the main characters, it seems that both Ace and Sanji, as characters who use heat (Sanji has Diable Jamble) seem to be his natural enemies.
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So far, in One Piece, we know that the only way to harm a logia is to take advantage of it's element's natural weakness. So, wouldn't it be reasonable that fire and heat are Aokiji's main enemies.
With that in mind, of the main characters, it seems that both Ace and Sanji, as characters who use heat (Sanji has Diable Jamble) seem to be his natural enemies.
Thoughts?
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Chulance Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:45 am
aokiji would own Sanji only the latter's feet are on fire. Aokiji could use ice age and another thing. Logia's don't fight it's pointless remember Ace and smoker.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:18 am
You're just pointing out one single encouter. need I remind you Crocodile's words on Devil Fruits?
there is no way to tell how Devil Fruit powers will fare when pitted against one other.
Fire melts ice. It's normal to assume that Aokiji would lose to Ace.
As for Sanji, need I remind you that Aokiji grabbed him in counter attack. Sanji as much greater speed.
there is no way to tell how Devil Fruit powers will fare when pitted against one other.
Fire melts ice. It's normal to assume that Aokiji would lose to Ace.
As for Sanji, need I remind you that Aokiji grabbed him in counter attack. Sanji as much greater speed.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Chulance Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:58 pm
Dude Aokiji is increadibly fast and an admiral all possese increadible speed and strength. Aokiji loosing t Ice ha. Ice is stronger than fire.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:03 pm
No. Ice loses to fire. Come on. If you burn ice it melts, and Aokiji can't manipulate water, only ice.
All this to say, I believe that Aokiji's natural weakness is heat and fire. Anyone with those powers can beat him, or at least be able to harm him. Marco of the whitebeard pirates is probably gonna be his opponent in the fights to come.
All this to say, I believe that Aokiji's natural weakness is heat and fire. Anyone with those powers can beat him, or at least be able to harm him. Marco of the whitebeard pirates is probably gonna be his opponent in the fights to come.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Chulance Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:43 pm
Dude no Aokiji wins. Cryokinesis owns Pryokinesis. Aokiji is not weak to fire and water if anything it's opposite he can create ice to freeze Ace instantly. Aokiji has ice abilties he owns ace and Sanji.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:52 pm
And Ace melts the ice and walks out. Between logias, it never comes to a clear end.
Pyrokinesis and cryokinesis have nothing to do with this. Aokiji and Ace's powers are very different from normal standards. For example, he can't freeze air, only send out ice from his own logia body. Same for Ace, he can't create fire, he sends it our of his own person.
I say heat and fire are Aokiji's natural enemies. It makes sense all things considered. If it comes down to the Straw Hats vs Marine HQ, then the only certain match up I can assure is Sanji vs Aokiji, precisely because of the heat thing. That was made apparent to me ever since Ernies Loby when Sanji used Diable Jamble.
Pyrokinesis and cryokinesis have nothing to do with this. Aokiji and Ace's powers are very different from normal standards. For example, he can't freeze air, only send out ice from his own logia body. Same for Ace, he can't create fire, he sends it our of his own person.
I say heat and fire are Aokiji's natural enemies. It makes sense all things considered. If it comes down to the Straw Hats vs Marine HQ, then the only certain match up I can assure is Sanji vs Aokiji, precisely because of the heat thing. That was made apparent to me ever since Ernies Loby when Sanji used Diable Jamble.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Zero Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:28 pm
I say Ace has this one.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by 4Neodemon Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:40 pm
lol1991 wrote:No. Ice loses to fire. Come on. If you burn ice it melts, and Aokiji can't manipulate water, only ice.
But when the ice is melted, its water... so fire loses to ice
it makes sense 
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Zero Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:43 pm
4Neodemon wrote:lol1991 wrote:No. Ice loses to fire. Come on. If you burn ice it melts, and Aokiji can't manipulate water, only ice.
But when the ice is melted, its water... so fire loses to ice
But if the ice melts and it turns to water, the attack neutralizes. And Aokiji doesn't use water, he uses Ice. Ace can keep hacking away till he's gotten through to Aokiji.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:19 pm
All this to argue, that if it comes down to the SH vs Marine HQ, then obviously
Zoro, Luffy and Sanju vs The Three Admirals.
So, the only match I can assure, is Sanji vs Aokiji, because it makes the most sense.
Zoro, Luffy and Sanju vs The Three Admirals.
So, the only match I can assure, is Sanji vs Aokiji, because it makes the most sense.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Chulance Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:20 am
Sanji can't win some fire on his leg won't tear Ace apart because one bucket of water wont't immbolize Luffy jeez. Aokiji owns them both he can encase them in ice and than throw them in the ocean and freeze it.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Zero Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:13 am
Yeah, I don't think Sanji is powerful enough to take down Aokiji. Ace is though I think
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:28 am
Sanji using Diabel Jamble should be able to at least hurt Aokiji with the heat from the attacks. That's the point in this. Not and automatic win, but one hell of a match.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Zero Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:08 pm
Sure, but how long till Aokiji gets to him and freezes him up...ya know
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:14 pm
Well, is legs due to the same technique are immune. And Sanji would know not to get caught.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Zero Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:27 pm
Can Sanji keep up that technique forever?
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by lol1991 Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:31 pm
It last as long as he can spin.
Diable Jamble consists of spinning in place as to increase the friction in the legs, and heat them up to extraordinary levels.
Diable Jamble consists of spinning in place as to increase the friction in the legs, and heat them up to extraordinary levels.
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Re: Sanji vs Aokiji and Portgas D. Ace vs Aokiji
by Chulance Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:28 pm
Sanji cannot beat a logia
I say Aokiji wins both but let's just agree to disagree for Ace vs Aokiji.
I say Aokiji wins both but let's just agree to disagree for Ace vs Aokiji.
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