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Post by Tlaloc Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:09 pm

I just saw in BBC that it seems that China is now the second world power over Japan.

Still it seems not to be on the web, hope it is a bad joke.

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Post by lol1991 Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:22 am

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Post by Tlaloc Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:35 pm

OK I just saw it again today, and what they said is that they expect for China to be the second economy & beat Japan soon.

Geez, BBC is losing credibility with more & more time! I was worried that this was true, so I looked at all websites & newspapers but no mention of this thing. Not even CNN did this (which are losing credibility soon), so BBC must be up to something presenting something as a breaking news, and then later saying it is just an estimation.

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Post by Son Goku Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:44 pm

Japan is still a nicer place to live. I'd take Japan over China any day...though China does have wild panda bears and Dragon Ball mountains...
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Post by ningen Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:04 am

BBC lost its credibility a long time ago. (The same goes for shitty CNN.)
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Post by lol1991 Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:21 am

Japan has anime...and cosplay...it wins

China has kidnappers and pseudo communism...it looses
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Post by VEGETA_DTX Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:49 am

I personally like Japan and China both in their own ways, and yes power wise, resource wise and military-wise China is far in front of Japan, but economy wise it still isn't probably.

But I honestly never saw a problem with that, I don't understand why many people dislike China that much, there are definitely a lot of fake and silly rumors about China, but anyways I respect people's opinions.
I like China's way of functioning to be honest with you, however of course there are some very bad things such as death penalty...I believe nobody has rights to take somebodies life even if that man took many other lives, simply put him to the life-long prison and that's it, you get the same effect without killing him.
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Post by Tlaloc Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:12 pm

My thing with China, is that I am against their government & corporations.

I don't like how their companies send in products of terrible (...doubtful) quality and even do piracy and get away with it.

Yet people with their political correctness support China to become a world power justifying it because of their "history & culture." I really wouldn't have a problem with China becoming a world power, if they weren't corrput and a danger to their own people (their own medicines kill their population because of the awful quality).

I really hate it how the mexican government is trying to be the "boot licker" of China, just to get a bit of the money. You see, Mexico is butt hurt that they didn't support Japan when they were going to become a world power, so now they try to speak wonders of China.

Yeah, BBC & CNN are as "relaiable" as Faux News.

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Post by ningen Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:29 am

The rise of China (East) is inevitable. Personally, I would like to see somebody, anybody being a competition to USA supremacy.
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Post by Tlaloc Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:31 am

ningen wrote:The rise of China (East) is inevitable.

It should not be.

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Post by ningen Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:58 am

^ And why is that? So we can have one monocentric world with USA leading it? East is trying to get back on top- it's a normal and inevitable thing according to scientific theories. Of course, once it succeeds the West will then try to obtain position it once had and the cycle will repeat.
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Post by Tlaloc Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:34 pm

I don't want USA either.

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Post by ningen Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:59 am

^ Yes, but that's the way it is.
Personally, I despise the lack of freedom in China and their inconsideration when it comes to pollution but when it comes to economy and general politics we need somebody to restore the balance that existed before the collapse of USSR.
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Post by lol1991 Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:22 am

Yeah well China is NOT the one I want to be main Eastern power.

Mostly because they call themselves a "Communist" state when they have NOTHING of what communist is. They're fucked up bastards
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Post by ningen Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:28 am

^ It doesn't matter what we as individuals want.
Well they do have some similarities like the cult of leader and the needs of individuals being put aside.
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Post by Son Goku Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:21 pm

All I have to say is China products = Chintendo Vii and Pop Station.
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Post by ningen Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:06 am

^ Yes I partially agree, but that is also a stereotype.
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Post by Tlaloc Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:57 pm

^Not a sttereotype; but a fact. China violates many copyrights with their industries, and can get away with them due to stupid laws.

Look at these blogs:
http://pincheschinos.blogspot.com/
http://laplagachina.blogspot.com/

These are blogs from Mexico which stand up to chinesse piracy.

Son Goku wrote:Jthough China does have wild panda bears...

And they have made them an endangered species.

So I am sorry ningen, but I can't support China; so if you want to ban me for not supporting China, then do it; but before that, I quit!


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Post by ningen Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:11 am

Lulz, what? Why would I ban you for not supporting China? XD Would you please stop talking about getting banned, I told you many times before- I think that you have a problem with being over paranoid.
First of all- that's why I said that Son Goku's statement is partially true.
But it's also a big stereotype. Although I would think twice before buying electronics from them I think that they are capable of making a reliable product. The thing that fascinated me about China (since I was a kid) is that they practically make everything. I look at the label and it says: Made in China. You go to the McDonalds and order a happy meal- and what is written on the label of the toy- made in China. But nobody wants to think about just how many things there are around him\her that are actually made in China. The countries like USA moved their industries there and in countries like Taiwan, India...and now since they face crisis they have a big problem returning them home. So basically when you wear your Nike just take a look where they're made. I'm against piracy on such large scales(although in some cases they are improving the product they're coping, just like what Serbian tailors did with the jeans, basically you wear a cheaper and better jeans than the original Calvin Klein), but also when I think about it- when I was a kid I couldn't afford Sega or NES so what did I buy- a Chinese NES ripoff, and that console is still actually working!
When I talked about pollution I did have pandas in mind(although they wont become extinct). But let me ask you something- do you think that all the other current economy powers aren't contributing to the general pollution problem. I don't know if USA is still first when it comes to that, but they were #1 polluter all these years. And when they were asked to cut down the pollution and sign a contract that everyone else had signed they refused, that's the same thing now with China. Humans are selfish. Should I remind you that Sandra Palin said- I don't see what's the big deal if polar bears disappear?
You think that Mexico is not a big polluter, please...
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Post by Tlaloc Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:16 pm

I don't support Mexico either; they will never learn. If they can't pick up used toilet paper from the ground into the waste basket; much less would they make Mexico a better place.

Mexicans think everything is a "mamada" and make fun of anyone who wants to make a difference (or kill them). Honestly, I've been thinking lately of killing myself as there is no escape.

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Post by lol1991 Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:33 pm

Tlaloc...seriously calm down!! You take things much to at heart sometimes. What ningen means is that people stereotype a lot...heck saying that is a stereotype...HECK looking at it better...every possible action a human makes is a stereotype, because anything within our physical and mental capacity can be taken as such...
There is no escape from the fact we are all bland and boring. People try many things to escape from it...from grading academics to starting up religion...but in the end, the fact I can shot you and you die doesn't change. Human life is boring.
Partly this is the reason why art and fiction is such a wonder to us. Because it's a representation of the non stereotype. We can never truly become what we call fiction...from the point we can, it's no longer interesting to relate.
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Post by 4Neodemon Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:37 pm

China rising economy is a fact.. but i do not think its going to be sustainable.. its going to be temporary... For example they are to depend on oil and they do not invest in clean alternative energies (and among other things)... the other countries are investing on it.. they do not have a powerfull economy now, but in the future they are going to surpass China, without a doubt

Countries in the European Union or even Japan are making the necessary changes to survive in the future.. China only thinks in the present.. who do you think is going to win??
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Post by ningen Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:20 am

lol1991 wrote:Tlaloc...seriously calm down!! You take things much to at heart sometimes. What ningen means is that people stereotype a lot...heck saying that is a stereotype...HECK looking at it better...every possible action a human makes is a stereotype, because anything within our physical and mental capacity can be taken as such...
There is no escape from the fact we are all bland and boring. People try many things to escape from it...from grading academics to starting up religion...but in the end, the fact I can shot you and you die doesn't change. Human life is boring.
Partly this is the reason why art and fiction is such a wonder to us. Because it's a representation of the non stereotype. We can never truly become what we call fiction...from the point we can, it's no longer interesting to relate.
Lol'91...seriously calm down!! XD
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Post by lol1991 Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:41 am

sorry...I was kinda nostalgia high yesterday and got all philosophical...anyway...yeah Tlaloc calm down ningen is just saying it's stereotyping...even if it IS true
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Post by ningen Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:51 am

^ Heh, it's ok, I was afraid a bit 'cause you both sounded really depressed.
Yeah, nobody is saying that it isn't true, just that it isn't an absolute\no exceptions one.
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