James Marsters On Why A Sequel Would Suck.

I just love using people's own unaltered wrods against them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAfW3H6bzh8

Unless it's anime films, no.

DB needs A LOT of effort, as well as time, money, and knowledge of DB to bring to real life. And frankly, I don't see it happening.

Ah, but I do. It can be done, it wouldn't take near the massive amount people think, and I think it can be pulled off nicely if it's taken seriously.

Krillinfan wrote:Ah, but I do. It can be done, it wouldn't take near the massive amount people think, and I think it can be pulled off nicely if it's taken seriously.

This is just it, getting someone who would take it seriously.

justinlynch3 wrote:This is just it, getting someone who would take it seriously.

Also not hard. Heck, M. Night Shyamalan looks to be taking Avatar seriously with his films too. Just gotta find the right guy. Won't be easy, but he's out there...

The right guy, who's interested in DB.

Ironically, it could work if they casted good Japanese/Chinese actors, follow the actual story and make the action be a combination of the Super Burly Brawl in the Matrix Revolutions with the Anime-inspired cinematography during the gang fight in Speed Racer.

But you know, that would require smart spending and brains...two things Hollywood does not have.

I actually would like to have live action DB movies, but now I kinda wish they don't plus there might be no time.

I also think that it's one of those franchises, like Speed Racer that is just too old now. Most of the people who liked Dragon Ball Z, never mind the original Dragon Ball are all grown up. I don't really see kids into it. I think in America it's like 10 or so years old and in Japan it's been long dead. Japanese people look at DB like how we look at the Flintstones.

Wow... just when I think James Masters cannot possibly get more retarded and pathetic, he does!

With every single thing he said in that video, he owned himself.

What a stupid moron.

Sidepocket wrote:I also think that it's one of those franchises, like Speed Racer that is just too old now. Most of the people who liked Dragon Ball Z, never mind the original Dragon Ball are all grown up. I don't really see kids into it. I think in America it's like 10 or so years old and in Japan it's been long dead. Japanese people look at DB like how we look at the Flintstones.

Uh... you haven't been to Japan recently, have you? Dragon ball is as popular as it's ever been, and with the new series about to come out... yeah, that's kinda untrue.

Difference is: Speed Racer had been out for almost forty years before they made that movie.

Krillinfan wrote:

Sidepocket wrote:I also think that it's one of those franchises, like Speed Racer that is just too old now. Most of the people who liked Dragon Ball Z, never mind the original Dragon Ball are all grown up. I don't really see kids into it. I think in America it's like 10 or so years old and in Japan it's been long dead. Japanese people look at DB like how we look at the Flintstones.

Uh... you haven't been to Japan recently, have you? Dragon ball is as popular as it's ever been, and with the new series about to come out... yeah, that's kinda untrue.

Difference is: Speed Racer had been out for almost forty years before they made that movie.

Uh yes, I have. Flintstones and Loony Toons are still popular in America too. Just they are really fucking old now, aka it's not from their generation. So all those kids who die their hair Spiky and watch Naruto, Idolm@aster and Canaan...yea it's old or they have no idea what it is.

Also, I would hardly call Dragon Ball Kai new. It's more like releasing an HD upgrade of a Playstation One game.

P.S. Thanks for sneaking in the flame bait YouTube with all the "LOOK, I'm not racist but (insert racist remark here)" kind fo warnings.

Uh yes, I have. Flintstones and Loony Toons are still popular in America too. Just they are really fucking old now, aka it's not from their generation. So all those kids who die their hair Spiky and watch Naruto, Idolm@aster and Canaan...yea it's old or they have no idea what it is.

Also, I would hardly call Dragon Ball Kai new. It's more like releasing an HD upgrade of a Playstation One game.

P.S. Thanks for sneaking in the flame bait YouTube with all the "LOOK, I'm not racist but (insert racist remark here)" kind fo warnings. [/quote]

I didn't snaek anything in, sir. I simply tested embedding so I didn't post a bunch of gibberish when I posted it in the relevant area. Hencve why i said "Ignore It".

Secondly: The point is, Kai will reintroiduce it to younger folks. So yeah, they won't be able to say "what is that" anymore.

And you KNOW you're full of BS when you say people familiar with Shonen Manga/Anime don't know what Dragon Ball is. They at least know that much, pally. Seriously, Why are you suddenly going on the attack? I get the feeling you don't like being corrected much.

Krillinfan wrote:

Sidepocket wrote:Uh yes, I have. Flintstones and Loony Toons are still popular in America too. Just they are really fucking old now, aka it's not from their generation. So all those kids who die their hair Spiky and watch Naruto, Idolm@aster and Canaan...yea it's old or they have no idea what it is.

Also, I would hardly call Dragon Ball Kai new. It's more like releasing an HD upgrade of a Playstation One game.

P.S. Thanks for sneaking in the flame bait YouTube with all the "LOOK, I'm not racist but (insert racist remark here)" kind fo warnings.

I didn't snaek anything in, sir. I simply tested embedding so I didn't post a bunch of gibberish when I posted it in the relevant area. Hencve why i said "Ignore It".

Secondly: The point is, Kai will reintroiduce it to younger folks. So yeah, they won't be able to say "what is that" anymore.

And you KNOW you're full of BS when you say people familiar with Shonen Manga/Anime don't know what Dragon Ball is. They at least know that much, pally. Seriously, Why are you suddenly going on the attack? I get the feeling you don't like being corrected much.

Yes, it will reintroduce DB to a younger generation, much like how the new MachGoGoGo! Anime reintroduced Speed Racer to younger Japanese people. The thing is, that they are not "in style" anymore. Sure they are popular but they are popular in the same way for example The Blair Witch Project was popular, it's not like today's The Dar Knight, which in about ten years will also be old.

And yes, people in both America and Japan from my generation and older remember Dragon Ball, but it's not the same. It's not the same when you release a movie to a young franchise that has millions of children mostly between the ages of 8-12 watching it. It would kind of be like if DBE was released during the Cell Saga as oppose to releasing DBE now when the series had had its run and it's now on syndication for a couple of years now and even LONGER in Japan.

Also, why put in a flame bait video? Here is how I would have tested a YouTube embed:



Its random and it's also not flame bait.

P.S. I also corrected the Multiquotes for you.

Uh, again, that's not flame bait. That's one man's opinion of a movie, which I happen to agree with in this case. All I did was test it, I put "IGNORE IT" up top.

Sensitive much?

And dude, I really doubt you know what you're talking about. I really do. Certainly more widespread than Avatar, I can tell you that much.

Krillinfan wrote:Uh, again, that's not flame bait. That's one man's opinion of a movie, which I happen to agree with in this case. All I did was test it, I put "IGNORE IT" up top.

Sensitive much?

And dude, I really doubt you know what you're talking about. I really do. Certainly more widespread than Avatar, I can tell you that much.

Right, so if I post lets say a racist video or a video that trashes the DBE moment and claim it was a "TEST VIDEO" that would let me off the hook for posting such a flame in the first place?

Hmmm.

Also, I can't read the last sentence. I think a subject was left out of it...

Besides, what is your proof that Jeff Palmer knows what he is talking about? Never mind if you go our website, all our arguments are backed up by external sources that we got the information from. Hell, we even have the show bible to download as a PDF! Does Jeff Palmer know Sifu Kisu personally? Does he know Mike and Bryan personally? Does he know Dao Le, Dante Bosco, Professor S.L. Lee, Dante Basco, the actors who auditioned for the film and hell, even the producer Frank Marshal personally?

We do.

Funny how you keep making these claims yet never back them up. Are you just assuming people are stupid enough to believe you?

That being said, the video neither bashed your movement nor was it racist. But thanks for admitting you have a clear agenda.

(BTW, been to your site. Half your "proof" links right back to it. You can't validate YOURSELF and make it true.)

Krillinfan wrote:Funny how you keep making these claims yet never back them up. Are you just assuming people are stupid enough to believe you?

That being said, the video neither bashed your movement nor was it racist. But thanks for admitting you have a clear agenda.

(BTW, been to your site. Half your "proof" links right back to it. You can't validate YOURSELF and make it true.)

Like I said, give me links where it loops back.

Also, the video is anti our movement. Not saying that you cant post it, but at least say "HERE IS THE VIDEO THAT IS PRO MOVEMENT" instead of trying to sneak it off as being a test. You could have used any other of the billions of YouTube videos out there to test if the YouTube videos works.

Oh and what more proof do you want? The fact that I work in the video games industry and half of my co-workers live in Japan and that I talk to them on a regular basis and have been to Japan 25 times for months at a time in the past five years to work on video games?

And since it seems that people out there are too lazy to find all the linked external articles that we have found on this issue I'll throw a free bone here and post one. Warning, image is big:

http://pics.livejournal.com/sidepocket_pro/pic/000252tf

http://pics.livejournal.com/sidepocket_pro/pic/000260sw

There is one personal friend that I know personally, many of our people are actually RELATIVES of people who worked on the show doing animation, character design and writing.

Seriously, I could give you (much like our site) a mountain of evidence and people will still say "I don't see any proof!" Much like how many people do not believe that there were Nazi Concentration Camps even though there is enough evidence to fill the Library of Congress that they existed including eye witness and official Nazi documents.

Sidepocket wrote:

Krillinfan wrote:Funny how you keep making these claims yet never back them up. Are you just assuming people are stupid enough to believe you?

That being said, the video neither bashed your movement nor was it racist. But thanks for admitting you have a clear agenda.

(BTW, been to your site. Half your "proof" links right back to it. You can't validate YOURSELF and make it true.)

Like I said, give me links where it loops back.

Also, the video is anti our movement. Not saying that you cant post it, but at least say "HERE IS THE VIDEO THAT IS PRO MOVEMENT" instead of trying to sneak it off as being a test. You could have used any other of the billions of YouTube videos out there to test if the YouTube videos works.

Oh and what more proof do you want? The fact that I work in the video games industry and half of my co-workers live in Japan and that I talk to them on a regular basis and have been to Japan 25 times for months at a time in the past five years to work on video games?

what gaming company... wherabouts in japan... Im quite familar with japan Ive practicly lived there my best friends are from there. im moving back there in the fall...

you claim in the past five years you have been going back and forth there... you work for a video game comapny... not very credible resource there pal ... after all you are making huger claims now and all this is being documented for my arguement towards the racebending site the channel...and you are furhter showing how full of bs and provving my points.

Sidepocket wrote:

Krillinfan wrote:Uh, again, that's not flame bait. That's one man's opinion of a movie, which I happen to agree with in this case. All I did was test it, I put "IGNORE IT" up top.

Sensitive much?

And dude, I really doubt you know what you're talking about. I really do. Certainly more widespread than Avatar, I can tell you that much.

Right, so if I post lets say a racist video or a video that trashes the DBE moment and claim it was a "TEST VIDEO" that would let me off the hook for posting such a flame in the first place?

Hmmm.

Also, I can't read the last sentence. I think a subject was left out of it...

Besides, what is your proof that Jeff Palmer knows what he is talking about? Never mind if you go our website, all our arguments are backed up by external sources that we got the information from. Hell, we even have the show bible to download as a PDF! Does Jeff Palmer know Sifu Kisu personally? Does he know Mike and Bryan personally? Does he know Dao Le, Dante Bosco, Professor S.L. Lee, Dante Basco, the actors who auditioned for the film and hell, even the producer Frank Marshal personally?

We do.

I have already argued this with your channel at racebending... you do not know these ppl you have no proof, you make shit up!!...
so you know mike and bryan personaly? you know dante basco and the producer frank marshal...yet none of them have commented on your website and the only quote you have from the creators is one that is from a myspace channel...

everyone else has nothign to do with the movie and the show...

very egotisical bs..
if you know ppl directly related to the series how come none of them are on your youtube channel...howcome there is no actual documented proof?
howcome you havent gotten them to speak about the movie in some way or another that would some way prove the movie is against the source material or that is strictly racism.. that the series is all asain ppl no white ppl?


you my friend make me laugh and yet more bs to use against you

Sidepocket wrote:

Krillinfan wrote:Uh, again, that's not flame bait. That's one man's opinion of a movie, which I happen to agree with in this case. All I did was test it, I put "IGNORE IT" up top.

Sensitive much?

And dude, I really doubt you know what you're talking about. I really do. Certainly more widespread than Avatar, I can tell you that much.

Right, so if I post lets say a racist video or a video that trashes the DBE moment and claim it was a "TEST VIDEO" that would let me off the hook for posting such a flame in the first place?

Hmmm.

Also, I can't read the last sentence. I think a subject was left out of it...

Besides, what is your proof that Jeff Palmer knows what he is talking about? Never mind if you go our website, all our arguments are backed up by external sources that we got the information from. Hell, we even have the show bible to download as a PDF! Does Jeff Palmer know Sifu Kisu personally? Does he know Mike and Bryan personally? Does he know Dao Le, Dante Bosco, Professor S.L. Lee, Dante Basco, the actors who auditioned for the film and hell, even the producer Frank Marshal personally?

We do.

oh and ive gotten messages from your protest channel saying that they are pretty much getting sick of you and how you are representing you arguements and your channel....
Ive beend documenting it... and normally a protest isnt something i just jump all against without looking at facts... you have made racial claims...you have also have made racial slurrs in name of the racebending channel that has intern made me very offended!

this is why im fighting you guys the hypocracy, the lack of truth, the bs, lies, the profit, the brainwashing! you make claims after claims and yet everytime i try to bring up the facts you ignor them and start over this visicous circle...
I agree with racism when its legit, but your channel isnt protest teh lack of respect of the quality of the cartoon and the adaptaion.. only race... thats now what we are about race only plays a small part of the dragonball protest... in fact little to none...
it was abotu teh over westernization of the film..the lack of source material, the horrible acting and lack of respect to a series that been around for 25 years and still very popular!..

this is a western series so i can agree with the idea of westernizing the series cause it already is... I can not liek the casting becuase of the race yeah sure...but does that account for the fact that there is no evidence the choosing for the series of the casting without real hard evidence

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Krillinfan wrote:

Sidepocket wrote:I also think that it's one of those franchises, like Speed Racer that is just too old now. Most of the people who liked Dragon Ball Z, never mind the original Dragon Ball are all grown up. I don't really see kids into it. I think in America it's like 10 or so years old and in Japan it's been long dead. Japanese people look at DB like how we look at the Flintstones.

Uh... you haven't been to Japan recently, have you? Dragon ball is as popular as it's ever been, and with the new series about to come out... yeah, that's kinda untrue.

Difference is: Speed Racer had been out for almost forty years before they made that movie.

>DB
>long dead

SERIOUSLY STFU NOW!
I want to believe you're a troll, but I get a feeling you're serious here.
DB still sells more than most shit in Japan. It still has the second highest sell rate of all time (It's been surpassed by One Piece because Oda decided to make a never ending shounen (unlike Toriyama who was forced to continue is) and say he was inspired by DB
Heck, One Piece's early success is due to this, and thus, you can Dragon Ball helped make it as famous and profitable as it is


Also, you two better keep on track. Take the fucking discussion of the Avatar thing to the right topic.

Seriously, I'm annoyed I have to mod for the first time since I got this job

Sidepocket wrote:I also think that it's one of those franchises, like Speed Racer that is just too old now. Most of the people who liked Dragon Ball Z, never mind the original Dragon Ball are all grown up. I don't really see kids into it. I think in America it's like 10 or so years old and in Japan it's been long dead. Japanese people look at DB like how we look at the Flintstones.

okay i know for a fac this here is the biggest piece of bs !! if you really been to tokyo or anypart of japan you'd knwo they show dragonabll as much as family guy comes on a day here . the numerious games, you know about akihabara? you know that they release the series over agian there known as dragonball kai? that like astroboy its a part of there national treasures?!!!

I'm learning more and more that you havent never been to japan. the fact that they released dragonabll evolution there first was a huge deal.. infac akira toriyama is a also considered a national treasure , like tezuka sensei or miyazaki?
tell me somethings you loved abotu japan? have you bene to tokyo?

Erm...what the hall are you all arguing about? What's with double posts and with that test youtube link? Tone it down, or get toned down.
About the sequel- I said it a hundred times before: should not happen, ain't gonna happen, period.