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Post by lol1991 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:12 pm

EXPLICIT LYRICS



I don't like rap in general, but Eminem is the one exception. The guy knows how to make me laugh, and he's not a total sell out that talks about ass and tits in every damm music.
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Post by Jessica Raine Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:13 pm

meh, only rap song I like is White and nerdy, I can agree with 90% of the song. lol maybe that's my theme song...
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Post by lol1991 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:15 pm

did you even listen to the song...
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Post by Jessica Raine Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:17 pm

It's ok...
I like the "sugar baby" version of that song where it's a little girl singing lol
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Post by lol1991 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:20 pm

O_o DEAR GOOD NO.
Jessie, Eminem deserves respect. He knows what rap should be. Not like 50 cent and his friends, that are clueless to that.
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Post by Jessica Raine Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:23 pm

lol ok yes sir. sorry you know me and azumanga...

but yeah i guess he is pretty cool. Daft Punk and Buckethead and weezer are just more my style
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Post by Tlaloc Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:43 pm

I only like the Tropic Thunder rap.

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Post by Jessica Raine Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:00 pm

Mmm, the teenage mutant ninja turtle rap

hah wtf 90's...
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Post by secor Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:24 pm

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I don't like rap in general, but Eminem is the one exception. The guy knows how to make me laugh, and he's not a total sell out that talks about ass and tits in every damm music.
so what ur sayin is... u dont kno shit about rap? well if thats the case i can understand why you only like one guy who is one of the few guys who have ever been famous for actually being a good rapper. whats funny about eminiem is that he used to be underground, but then he came out with "My Name Is" and made a video for it. im guessing the only rappers u kno are 50 cent and lil wayne, and doubt u even have the right view of things to appreciate the grittiness of some rappers, and probably dont kno enough about a minority culture to understand a lot of what is said in songs. its ok, cant blame somebody for being uneducated.

underground is where its at
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Post by Tlaloc Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:48 pm

lol at Vanilla Ice.

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Post by Jessica Raine Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:59 pm

go ninja go ninja go ninja go!

vanilla ice is such a fag ^_^
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Post by ningen Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:43 am

^Stay on the topic Jess. Smile

I respect Eminem as a musician.
Something from him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkAHvp1Vgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QhfX22CA_A

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Post by lol1991 Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:23 am

secor wrote:
lol1991 wrote:
I don't like rap in general, but Eminem is the one exception. The guy knows how to make me laugh, and he's not a total sell out that talks about ass and tits in every damm music.
so what ur sayin is... u dont kno shit about rap? well if thats the case i can understand why you only like one guy who is one of the few guys who have ever been famous for actually being a good rapper. whats funny about eminiem is that he used to be underground, but then he came out with "My Name Is" and made a video for it. im guessing the only rappers u kno are 50 cent and lil wayne, and doubt u even have the right view of things to appreciate the grittiness of some rappers, and probably dont kno enough about a minority culture to understand a lot of what is said in songs. its ok, cant blame somebody for being uneducated.

underground is where its at

Of course i'm talking main streem. I don't like main streem rap, but eminem is the exception, thats all. I can't go around saying i know about the unkown rappers, because i never really felt like knowing.
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Post by Jessica Raine Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:49 pm

^Stay on the topic Jess.
*imitates Link from zelda cartoon* Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me, princess.
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Post by ningen Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:32 pm

^Los gaspos
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Post by Jessica Raine Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:28 pm

please don't sue me T_T wasn't my fault you got your finger stuck in that soda bottle!
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Post by secor Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:03 pm

lol1991 wrote:
Of course i'm talking main streem. I don't like main streem rap, but eminem is the exception, thats all. I can't go around saying i know about the unkown rappers, because i never really felt like knowing.
this is why i hate having to defend rap, cuz its always the dude that doesnt kno anything about it saying that it sucks, even if you dont like most mainstream rap, ur listening to the gimmicks, ur talkin about the videos they show and the crap the play on the radio. but thats if ur talking about mainstream as just what everybody knows, which is wrong. mainstream is a style or a form of hiphop, its like saying pop music, pop mean popular, hence pop music not really being any particular kind of music, just whats popular at the time. mainstream is basically the kind of hiphop thats popular at the time.

now if ur sayin u dont like gangster rap thats different, not that its more acceptable... people take lyrics way too seriously, its just words. the point of gangster rap is to take the bleakness and simplicity of gangster life and give a little bit of luster and intrigue. if u dont like gangster rap u must not have ever listened to gangster rap, cuz rap is literally Rhythm and Poetry, if it isnt poetic than it isnt rap, its just a song.

maybe u dont get what im sayin but theres gotta be something that u understand that has that same type of requirement to be considered what its trying to be... if that makes sense... whatever, heres some rap fa yo ass
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Post by ningen Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:10 am

Rap is literally Rhythm and Poetry.
Yeah, I agree with that, that's how it should be, to me that is the ultimate form of music.
But I don't understand some of the "musicians" in my country who are proud that they are underground and criticize the mainstream but in the same time they are also uncreative, at least to me they are just creating noise not music. I sense no melody.
If I were a musician, I would always try to improve my skills...it's not about the fame, but I would like to create something in which a lot of people can enjoy (me in the first place of course).
Vivaldi (you can take some other classical composer) created some good music, music popular for that time, but he will always be respected.

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Post by VEGETA_DTX Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:47 am

I personally, just
1.don't like rap/hip hop at all...it just simply irritates my ears as well as my eyes when I see their gesticulation in the music videos(NOW PLEASE! nothing bad, I didn't say that all rappers are doing bad and that they all are narco and prostitute dealers, and I perfectly respect people who listen to some old hip hop that actually have some point...not that 50 cent and to him similar...)

2.I personally don't even consider it as a music(now again! - this is not disrespect for those who listen it, I am just honestly saying that I can't find a BIT of art in it, just as someone else can't find a bit of art in something that I listen and so on...its a matter of tastes.)

3.It always grinded my nerves, that naive parents actually flame some aggressive heavy bands for being aggressive for spreading the negative energy...while nobody actually watched any interviews or such, where majority of them says something similar to what this one very heavy band said:
"Do you really freakin think that I or anyone else from our crew wanna kill somebody?!?!
Its just releasing the negative energy, we do not really intend to kill somebody or such for f**** sake, if you follow the lyrics you'll see that they're actually criticizing todays, economy, corruption and all the bad things...I don't see whats bad in wanting to KILL the corruption, seriously???"


AND IN THE SAME TIME, those parents are leaving out much more popular hip hop music, and their music videos that are OBVIOUSLY TRUE and what they sing/do there, they actually DO in a real life without a joke! and are admitting it proudly...like that 50 cent for being a P.I.M.P. and nobody giving a damn about it even though its forbidden by the law and such.
Now this all is referred to todays majority of mainstream rap/hip hop
I respect those who listen something other than "yo byatch, yo yo am a pimp and I can sell u a byatch".

NOW THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Take this what Secor said as an example:
this is why i hate having to defend rap, cuz its always the dude that doesnt kno anything about it saying that it sucks, even if you dont like most mainstream rap
THIS IS THE SAME, SAAAAAAMEEEEEEEEEEE situation with our DB now...think about it Sad....
If we don't keep the pressure and don't protest it for a few years DB/Z will be globally known as "some classic hollywood teenage action cliche dogshit"
AND WHEN YOU START DEFENDING DB AND EXPLAINING WHAT DB REALLY IS! YOU'LL FEEL THE SAME WAY SECOR FEELS RIGHT NOW FOR DEFENDING THE GOOD RAP.
Cause people are ignorant and intolerant, majority won't say "oh ok I respect, maybe there was an original source that you actually like and hate this cause it raped it, I understand it totally" NO! they will say "OH I DON'T KNOW ITS ALL THE SAME TO ME YA! ITS JUST A STUPID TEENAGE CRAP!"

So I want you who listen a hip hop, some old one or some that actually don't sing the same prostitute/drugs trash they sing today, that I FULLY RESPECT YOUR TASTE as much as I dislike that kind of music anyways. And that I FEEL YOUR PAIN SECOR.
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Post by ningen Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:47 am

VEGETA_DTX wrote:I personally, just
AND IN THE SAME TIME, those parents are leaving out much more popular hip hop music, and their music videos that are OBVIOUSLY TRUE and what they sing/do there, they actually DO in a real life without a joke! and are admitting it proudly...like that 50 cent for being a P.I.M.P. and nobody giving a damn about it even though its forbidden by the law and such.
Oh, but that is not true. Whenever you watch a documentary about the shooting in some school, or something else that ended up in a couple kids getting arrested you can see the parents of those kids saying:"I don't know why he did it, I tried to be a good role model...I didn't let him listen to rap music...or to wear baggy pants or his hat tilted to the side..."
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Post by secor Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:13 am

^bong diddley doom, my boy ningen hit the nail on the head.

for one, listnening to any kind of music doesnt force u to do anything and it doesnt impose any kind of behavior.

sidebar: music is mostly about mood, if ur in the mood to hear something that just makes u feel good, in terms of rap music, itll be something that has excellent flow or wordplay or just listening to someone go from topic to topic making connections about each topic to the other that you may not have thought about before, even if its simple and asinine

I am just honestly saying that I can't find a BIT of art in it

heres something else i have a problem with. ur saying that old school rap music has a bit of art in it but todays music doesnt. i can understand u saying that songs with the same topics that lack different perspectives or ways of displaying those perspectives are annoying or just plain wack, but i doubt that u do listen to the songs that do have those things in it, which is what music is all about anyway, saying something differently or making something obvious about it that wasnt obvious before. now for the music that does have the same topic but has those things in it, as soon as u heard any implications towards drugs or breaking laws u stopped listening, when theres probably a good reason, expressed in the song, that it was said.

about not seeing it as an artform, thats bullshit. anything creative is art, everything creative is art, now if its something thats not creative i can understand u saying its not art (i.e. that redundant bullcrap u were talking about), but to say that a whole genre of music that has its own other sects and forms of itself isnt art is ignorant. if you've heard something but u havent taken the time to look for something better (in this case rap music), that makes u ignorant, you've ignored the good and specifically targeted the crap without taking the time to educate urself on the subject.

like i said, its hard to defend, just like anything, i can only make examples of why shit is the way it is... and heres one now:
an artist may be talking about selling drugs or having no respect for women and seeing them not as people but tools that are only useful for certain things, but he may be just talking about his environment, not what hes doing or what he views as right or good or whatever. its simply a release of how he/she feels about that subject, which may go deeper than it seems at first, you have to listen to how he/she says it and what they relate it too.

and just cuz im back in this thread, heres some more rap:
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Post by secor Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:17 am

more, i doubt some of you are listening...
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Post by lol1991 Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:18 am

ok, i started this topic just to show of a music i liked, and it turned into a discusion on personal tastes. Enough already
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