Superman vs X men

Rules
1. Superman can use all powers from all forms/incarnations
2. All X men but Jean can't use Pheonix
3. Personality dosen't matter there out of character

Superman wins easily

...yeah right...then Superman wakes up from Xavier's mind control. I keep telling you that the strength of Xaviers influence can't be countered (except for Juggernaut helmet)

Okay in debates you can't say things like that you must compare feats. Superman can move faster than light I'm not making things up he can kill Xavier before he uses mind control he's faster than thoughts!

Dude, You're the one whi said knew everything on the matter. Go read up the comics and don't come in here with knowledge from forums. If you would take the time to read even a BIT of the marvel universe, you would know that the strength of Xavier's mind control can't be countered. And again...Superman can move a the speed of light when? because he's raced Flash? Well Like I said, Flash can't go at the speed of light.

I read and I have scans. What part of Superman is faster than telepath's and so is Flash don't you get? They kill him before he uses his powers unless Xavier know has acess to speedforce. Check my Flash vs X men I posted a pic of him moving at the speed of light.

Even though I LOVE the X-Men better, Superman would win because he's so insanely overpowered. I mean, if he can lift over 50 quintillion tons with one hand and sneeze a solar system away, then what chance do the X-Men have?

Still... I wonder how Xavier would fair against him... no, no good either. Superman would be too fast.

why is he flyin next to the sun?

A bitch please (go Nappa XD)

I still say the X-Men would prevail through numbers alone. Lets not forget, some of them are overpowered as well.
And as long as an individual as feelings and dream, Xavier's as them in his grasp

See Superman's advantage over telepath's is pure speed and he can easily destroy planets. He can use the Sword of superman to become omnipotent. no, I'm ignoring everything you say without proof

Fine, I'm not about to go look for scans to prove what I know. I'll leave you with you're exaggerations and take my leave.

I never knew Superman had a sword.

He can absorb it to become omnipotent and okay Lol I win this one too!

My ass. Who said I gave up? I just went to bed. I haven't given up. You say faster then thought. See here's the thing, nothing is faster then thought. No matter how fast you are, you still can't react the exact moment you want too. It's impossible. Sure, superheroes have very low reaction times, even nanoseconds, but thought is still faster. I demand you take that "Superman wins" out of there

No, your wrong this is comic books and anything is possible, It's impossible for Wolverine's claws to cut through anything they can't no way .It is a fact Superman is faster than thought so yeah nothing you say will change my opinion because it's a fact and If I post a scan you'll saw It's a lie. You are not debating your just telling me to stop exagerating facts instead of actually debating how a character can win.

Superman wins this fight because you have yet to debate. It's not impossible Superman and Flash and countless others can. SUPERMAN WINS! I'll take it out to attract other debates but I have not given up.

I already said how...Xavier puts Superman in a mind control...PROFIT!
Any other way fails, so if Superman did know who Xavier is, and went after him first...then yeah...X-Men get there asses kicked. But see Superman doesn't know who Xavier is. He would go

Superman: It's just a cripple...I can't hurt a..."xavier mind control kicks in"

I assume this because Superman is a pretty cool guy, he kills solar systems and doesn't afraid of anything XD.

Now assuming Superman behaves like a douche...then X-Men loose.

In a debate knowing characters dosen't matter and Superman's brain functions at speeds faster than light speed. He's faster than telepathy he can murder them all at super speed plus he's invincible. Personalities don't matter in fights! Assuming this is a blood-lusted fight than Superman wins easily

You didn't say we we're assuming he was blood lust. Then they all die, because Superman just blows up the freaking planet.

Yup or he can destroy the galaxy with a sneeze.

New rule.

We use the Superman from New Earth. And he can't leave the planet surface?

How would he win then HUH!

Before I was using Pre Crisis Superman, I'm gonna take a look at his feats to see what's the best he's got I think the X men might not able to win though simply because of his invunerability to most of their attacks yet Iceman can become organic ice and keep regernating right? So that wouldn't end he can bend admantium but not break it so what I'm getting at?

Well, I dunno if he can bend adamantium. I now I read once the amount of force you would have to apply is really high. Then again, it's Superman.

But now that he is unable to move as fast, Xavier can make quick work of him. Then again, Superman does have strong mind. It could take the Professor too much time.

The Phoenix I think can end it though.

You know, because of Phoenix, let's say he can leave the planet and receive yellow sun rays. That should even it.

Well Magneto has but it's because of his power but point is Superman could bend it but not break it. He's fast enough to accelerate and escape a black-hole,rebuild cities at increadible speed, and achieve light speed in space beucase on earth it damages the planet and could destroy it. His control of light speed is not as good as Flash's.

When supercharged he can push a planet MUUUUUUUUUCH larger than earth and blow up planets in seconds. If bloodlusted he can kill Xavier quickly he's still super fast and he has superhuman intelligence. Pheonix would murder Supes. His invunerability would make teleketic powers useless even cosmic level but he would receive extreme pain depending on how much solar energy if he absorbs enough to tank a big bang he'll be nearly dead but could murder Pheonix.

Depends on how much he can absorb for this fight. Although it depends if Pheonix can survive an attack that caused severe damage to Impereix a being who is the big bang.

Phoenix isn't matter. It's an entity. I doubt you can harm it easily. But Supes can't go that fast on the planet. Not light speed. And it's not like the X-Men are going after him.

Well, if he flies them to space...Wolverine, Jean Grey (because of Phoenix) would survive.

And then Rouge is the main factor for me. If she manages to even touch Superman, it's over me thinks.

Well can Pheonix survive attacks that beings with big bang like powers are injuerd by? His max on earth is nanosecond speed however he can move so fast he can phase through matter like Flash so it makes me wonder if that's light speed or near light speed. He see's lightning in slow motion and can move at light speed in space.

Rogue reminds him of Parasite. His power is similar to Rogue's however it's hard for anyone to absorb his power if they absorb too much they go beserk and get injured. Power absorbers can only take half people who mimic are different though. Supes again has super speed.

Well, Rogue works like this.

When she touches someone, they loose their powers by a specific time. It's dependent on how long the physical contact lasted, and it's not exactly the same.

Meaning, if Rouge touched Superman for 5 seconds, he would loose his powers for maybe 5 minutes. And Rogue as no limit. If she maintains for to long, she starts to absorb the personality as well, and becomes emotionally unbalanced.