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Post by Yagami Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:17 am

^lol at watching anime streamed xD
and what`s that got to do with that quote...sense makes none xD
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:47 am

My bad I quoted the wrong post and what so funny about streaming it's free and it doesn't take time to download.
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Post by Yagami Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:45 am

lol, well streaming is downloading too xD, and the quality is usually lower when it comes to resolution, sound and so on, mkay...
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:07 am

Well the quality is Good enough for me as long as I can see it I'm fine Smile
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Post by 4Neodemon Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:21 am

lol.... i hate streaming!! i like to put my laptop close to the couch and watch anime/series/movies... i cant do that with streaming because my internet connection is not wireless...lol... plus i like to see it with good quality like mp4 format (at least).
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:23 am

4Neodemon wrote:lol.... i hate streaming!! i like to put my laptop close to the couch and watch anime/series/movies... i cant do that with streaming because my internet connection is not wireless...lol... plus i like to see it with good quality like mp4 format (at least).

Depend where you go, When I see my shit I can see it HD clarity and I fine with that and Thankfully I have wireless connection Smile
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Post by ningen Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:39 am

Most of the people like to download stuff because of the quality issues and many other reasons, I'm in that group.
And some people like streaming, which is also OK, if it works for them.
Basically, the more options we have, the better for us and everyone is happy.
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:43 am

Awesome episode great animation. Smile

If you want to watch here you go
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Post by ningen Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:25 am

Lol, Soifon has a freakin' rocket launcher. Smile
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Post by 4Neodemon Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:43 am

thats comprehensible why she do not like it... lol... although i think it rocks Wink
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Post by ningen Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:42 am

Heh, it kinda even makes sense- her shikai is stealthy and totally suited for one on one combat, while her bankai is is a weapon of mass destruction.
Although it's a bit weird, at least in my case, to see the modern-looking weapons used as bankai and released forms of arrancar.
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Post by ningen Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:48 pm

Hell chapter...well there could be a lot of potential in there.
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:25 pm

Halibels a Vasto Lorde??!! What has Bleach come to? No
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Post by ningen Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:58 am

^ Erm...yes she's a Vasto Lorde...what about it? Smile

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Post by 4Neodemon Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:38 am

How can a vasto lorde be defeated by an arrancar that could be easilly defeated by a captain level shinigami?? It was stated in the begining of the series that vasto lordes are powerfull as an elite shinigamis...
Powerlevels are always a problem in this kind of anime :S And fillers like those never help.. instead fillers tend to complicate! lol
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Post by ningen Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:04 am

ZOMG, it seems that a lot of people didn't get it. Some said the same thing on a Serbian anime forum I'm at...dude it's simple- that wasn't an ordinary arrancar...Aizen made that guy stronger, just as he made Halibel and others stronger later on (it was the same guy that got his ass kicked in his normal form by Halibel, only he was stronger now becuse of Aizen).
Simple. Smile
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Post by 4Neodemon Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:20 am

I know he was strong... Aizen turn an Adjuchas into an arrancar.. thats why he got stronger.. But Vasto lordes are supposed to be a terrifying opponent.. as strong as a captain shinigami!!
For example, if Byakuya can defeat an Espada, then Halibel could have easily defeated that arrancar (it seems he was not even strong enough to become an espada :S )... Bleach is full of situation like that!! But do not get me wrong.. fillers like that of Halibell are welcome.. fillers should explain the things that the original source can not!! But in my oppinion they made a mistake there...


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Post by ningen Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:37 am

There is no mistake, the guy became as strong as a Vasto Lorde, that is all.
Look, you gotta understand something, neither side has a complete and 100% accurate info about the strength of the other side. So whoever said that a Vasto Lorde could be a match for a captain class shinigami was really wrong. It's obvious that they aren't. I mean, there is a POSSIBILITY that a Vasto Lorde could became as strong as a shinigami captain, but these ones obviously weren't strong enough. Even with Aizen's help they still couldn't prevail.
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Post by 4Neodemon Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:35 pm

It was Toushirou Hitsugaya who said so.... At least at the beginning of the series Kubo put Vasto Lordes in a very high level!! But now they are a joke... common, why would Aizen want the hollow power if they are so weak?? Stark, the strongest Espada (vasto lorde + arrancar) was defeated by Shunsui Kyōraku and he do not even used a bankai Shocked Shocked Shocked
You could say Shunsui have an abnormal power, but he and Juushirou Ukitake were no match against Yamamoto Shocked Shocked Shocked If Yamamoto is that strong why he do not defeated the espadas then?? Against such opponents the hollows are a pure joke and it makes no sense.. (at least for me..lol)

For me powerlevels on Bleach are just affraid affraid affraid Even worst then DB GT What a Face

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Post by ningen Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:02 pm

Toushirou was wrong...like that guy with a crab claw who fought Hisagi, he thought that he reached captain class strength, he was wrong and he failed, miserably.
Aizen expected much more from them, but in the end they couldn't do much against a captain class shinigami (which doesn't mean that they are not powerful opponents). And some of them had to fight against captain class vizards too...so nobody can say that they are weak.
Kyoraku is one of my favorite characters, so I can't be objective but the fact is that he is one of the strongest fighters in Bleach. He's smart, strong and agile. The fact that he managed to defeat the no.1 Espada without bankai just shows how much of a badass he actually is. Although if Ukitake didn't helped him at one point he stated that he would probably had to resort to bankai.
Kyoraku and Ukitake were more than a match for Yamamoto, I don't know why do you think otherwise. Smile I mean, they just weren't serious at fighting him at that time. They only needed to buy some time.
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Post by Setsuna F. Seiei Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:07 pm

ningen wrote:ZOMG, it seems that a lot of people didn't get it. Some said the same thing on a Serbian anime forum I'm at...dude it's simple- that wasn't an ordinary arrancar...Aizen made that guy stronger, just as he made Halibel and others stronger later on (it was the same guy that got his ass kicked in his normal form by Halibel, only he was stronger now becuse of Aizen).
Simple. Smile

Dude incomplete arrancar not even complete.
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Post by 4Neodemon Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:03 pm

ningen wrote:Toushirou was wrong...like that guy with a crab claw who fought Hisagi, he thought that he reached captain class strength, he was wrong and he failed, miserably.
Aizen expected much more from them, but in the end they couldn't do much against a captain class shinigami (which doesn't mean that they are not powerful opponents). And some of them had to fight against captain class vizards too...so nobody can say that they are weak.
Kyoraku is one of my favorite characters, so I can't be objective but the fact is that he is one of the strongest fighters in Bleach. He's smart, strong and agile. The fact that he managed to defeat the no.1 Espada without bankai just shows how much of a badass he actually is. Although if Ukitake didn't helped him at one point he stated that he would probably had to resort to bankai.
Kyoraku and Ukitake were more than a match for Yamamoto, I don't know why do you think otherwise. Smile I mean, they just weren't serious at fighting him at that time. They only needed to buy some time.

ya, the same Hisagi that had problems against a Menos Grande in the beggining of the series can now defeat an arrancar (the crab claw guy aka Findor Carias)?? ...lol... that was ridiculous.. ok, to be fair, we can say that he trained a lot, BUT it do not explain an even more ridiculous situation that Hisagi is going to perform in the next Bleach episodes... but im not going to spoil you Very Happy

I say Arrancars are weak, but only in comparisson to some captain class shinigamis... a vasto lorde (the ultimate hollow evolution) without his mask (where he gained shinigami powers - arrancar) is no match against a shinigami?? This just can not enter in my head..lol.. because its two ultimate powers (hollow + shinigami) against a single one (just shinigami)... Its like saying that a SSJ2 can be defeated by a SSJ1 in the DBZverse Shocked

Both kyoraku and Ukitake admited they were no match against Yamamoto... thats why i said that!

If the strongest hollow is no match against a captain class shinigami who only needs his shikai to defeat that hollow, then why send the weakest shinigamis to the war?? For example, Why Yamamoto do not just wipe out everything?... that is just bullshit :S And now i understand, in part, why people say that Kubo trolls..LOL.. the fights are cool Twisted Evil but pointless No

And Ok if we admit that Toushirou and the other shinigamis were wrong and Vasto Lordes were afterall a pure joke, some things begin to make sense... But others things are still doubtful!!
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Post by ningen Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:16 am

Erm...I don't remember Hisagi having problems with a Menos Grande. Maybe it was during his training years? Or perhaps he wasn't using shikai, bacause he doesn't like his? oO Lol, yea plaese don't spoil the future fights. Smile
I think that you got one part of the equation "hollow + shinigami" wrong.
More appropriate would be:
hollow + shinigami-like powers, or hollow + the removal of it's mask
If you look it that way it's very understandable why shinigami can be stronger then the arrancars. It's just a process where hollows gain more power (that resembles that of a shinigami) thru the removal of their masks. Smile

Yamamoto is extremly strong. And yea he would probably defeat Ukitake and Kyoraku but that would not be an easy thing to do. The thing about their fight is that those two were not serious about fighting him, it's not that they were fooling around, 'cause you're dead if you try to do that against Yamamoto. It's more like- they were only defending, they didn't have that killing intent that you have in a deathmatch.
Like I said- they could only guess the strength of their opponents, 'cause most of the hollows stay in Hueco Mundo. And it's also almost a pointless thing to do since new hollows appear all the time. So I guess that they concentrated on defending human world and Soul society. Smile
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Post by 4Neodemon Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:28 pm

ningen wrote:Erm...I don't remember Hisagi having problems with a Menos Grande. Maybe it was during his training years? Or perhaps he wasn't using shikai, bacause he doesn't like his? oO Lol, yea plaese don't spoil the future fights. Smile
I think that you got one part of the equation "hollow + shinigami" wrong.
More appropriate would be:
hollow + shinigami-like powers, or hollow + the removal of it's mask
If you look it that way it's very understandable why shinigami can be stronger then the arrancars. It's just a process where hollows gain more power (that resembles that of a shinigami) thru the removal of their masks. Smile

It was in some flashback... i do not remember in which episode, thought :S

As i have understood... Aizen wanted to break the power limit barrier that every shinigami or hollow have giving birth to a new being with a new power level... one that could not be possible to achieve if you are "only" a shinigami or an hollow. Thats why the arrancars MUST be strong than a simple shinigami... thats why Aizen wanted that power at first place.. whats the point if it do not make you insanely strong when you are already strong?

I know that the hougyoku was still incomplete when Aizen created the arrancars so their power had still not reached its fullness, BUT at least it should be enough to the strongest arrancar making Shunsui using his bankai..lol.. Aizen started the experience more than 100 years ago when he created the first vizards but they were incomplete.. its understandable why the vizards are not that strong.. they are failed creations Laughing Its not the case of the arrancars because 100 years is more than enough time to perfect your experiment! Thats also why stronger and stronger arrancars were being created everytime hougyoku was used....



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Yamamoto is extremly strong. And yea he would probably defeat Ukitake and Kyoraku but that would not be an easy thing to do. The thing about their fight is that those two were not serious about fighting him, it's not that they were fooling around, 'cause you're dead if you try to do that against Yamamoto. It's more like- they were only defending, they didn't have that killing intent that you have in a deathmatch.
Like I said- they could only guess the strength of their opponents, 'cause most of the hollows stay in Hueco Mundo. And it's also almost a pointless thing to do since new hollows appear all the time. So I guess that they concentrated on defending human world and Soul society. Smile

Ok... i have to agree with you on that Wink
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