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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:52 am

Enel,Ace,Smoker, Jewel bonery can alter age so she owns the dBZverse but you''ll never admit that.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:00 am

I said you haven't shown me any proof she can age someone by thinking about it. The only demonstration involved visual contact. If DBZ can move fast, they can own her before she can age them
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:10 am

Nope she just thinks about it.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:21 am

You have NO way of knowing

Although unverified on what it is, Bonney also exhibits abilities that appear to come from a (most probably a Paramecia type) Devil Fruit involving age manipulation. She is also appears to somehow be able to change her age and appearance to that of a small child.[2] She also uses a similar ability to turn a group of pursuing marines into children and old men. In the case that her abilities be confirmed as coming from a Devil Fruit, then they are one of the few that operates without also affecting items on the user's person, something that is uncommon to most power users. She apparently wears skimpy clothing and suspenders so that her clothes will fit when she becomes a child; when the marines were transformed into kids, their clothes remained the same size and were therefore too big.

This is from OP wikia. All we know is that she manipulates age and it doesn't affect clothing. We do not know if she needs eye contact, just thinking it, or anything.
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:23 am

She dosen't marines charged her and they were reduced she can do the same to DBZ warriors.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:14 pm

Yes, but are you going to compare the speed of an average marine to that of a Z warrior. Besides, the fact she fears the admirals proves her ability must have some sort of limit. otherwise, she would be uber confident in herself.
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:36 pm

Dude maybe you can't age Logia's though my friend think can you age light or ice?
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:43 pm

If she can insta age just like that, she ages Kizaru down to a mere child just by thinking about him. He has no way to prepare, so he can't turn to light in time. Need I remind you the only one that can turn to his element on reflex is Crocodile. All the others only turn when they are dealt blows like decapitation. So, aging doesn't fit in that since it's not destroying the body.

In fact, she could do this to every famous person in the Marines and take over the world just like that. She probably knows their faces from posters and news and shit.

That's why I think she needs a constant visual contact. Otherwise, it's useless.


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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:47 pm

No logia's are always their true elements my friend. Kizaru is not fully human he's light but he can assume a physical form or become pure light,. aokiji is the same neither might not be able to be aged.

No she can age things in the area not just anything but she can age it if it's in the area.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:02 pm

Wrong.

Logias are both physical and element

When Ace and Smoker were at the dinner, Luffyc crashed in and hit both by surprise. There lie the logias only weakness.

I can, however, assume that Kizaru and Aokiji aren't exactly at the same exp level as Smoker or Ace.
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:27 pm

Dude that was for comedic effect!
Vegeta has elasticy than because his head gets bigger when's upset and so does Bulma.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:30 pm

Right, now it's for comedic effect

Prove it! When logias take physical, non deadly blows when unprepared, they can be harmed. Croc and Eneru are the know exceptions cause of their trainings.
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:41 pm

Kizaru is an exception as well and so is Aokiji and all admirals.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:24 pm

Kizaru took a deadly blow!

Don't tell me being chopped from the waist down isn't deadly.

All other instances he was actively using his logia form.

Aokiji had more than enough time to use his active logia form in both instances he was attacked (Robin's first attack in him in the manga and Whitebeards shock waves way later on)
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:52 pm

By RAyleigh who has Haki.

He was playing around.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:01 pm

When what, he was chopped in half? Hardly. He wasn't expecting it. Rather due to his own stupidity. He could have been in active logia form since he was fighting.

Also, I'm talking about when he was attacked by the music guy of the eleven supernovas.
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Post by Chulance Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:02 pm

No The music guy might have a special power or side-effect allowing him to do something to logia's.
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Post by lol1991 Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:55 pm

Doubt it. Rather, most likely, Kizaru just wasn't expecting it. If the blow would have been different (say blunt physical attack) Kizaru might have been harmed

Furthermore, their ability to move out of harm's way by using their powers seems to serve as a defense-mechanism of sorts designed to save them from otherwise life-threatening attacks (i.e. getting cut in half). If not trained properly (like Crocodile has), it could be easily bypassed by non-lethal physical attacks. This was demonstrated by Luffy in Nanohana where he used a Gomu Gomu No Rocket to propel himself inside a restaurant, where he sent Smoker and Ace (both Logia-type users) flying

This is what I mean by non lethal physical attacks. Obviously what Scratchman Appo did was lethal.
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Post by Chulance Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:11 pm

Again comedic effect taking seriosuly by some fans my friend.

Anyway DBZverse can win but not truly. Due to them having some planet-busters they might be able to win. Freiza can destroy parts of a planet with a massive ki blast but in the process nearly kills himself as seen when he destroyed Namek.

The DBZ-warriors can survive planet busting moves but die from the lack of air. So if they destroy the planet they would die. This method can be used to wipe out everyone by some of the logia's. Whitebeard can use Air-quakes which is emitting seismic waves in the air to break things apart but Cell,Freiza, and Buu can destroy the planet from space leaving the logia's. Buu can make them candy os DBZverse can win.
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Post by 4Neodemon Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:20 pm

Do not forget that Goku can use teleport after a planet explosion... So not only the DBZ villains can win, but also our beloved Goku Smile
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Post by Chulance Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:22 pm

Goku has to lock onto a ki-signature to teleport but I forgot this is DBZverse so the kai's can teleport to Namek. Even if they are in the OPverse Kibito Kai can teleport through dimensions and so can Buu. They can get back to DBZVerse earth where it would not be destroyed.
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Post by lol1991 Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:23 am

Dude, you can't just name something comedic effect like that. I mean, THOUSANDS of fans consider it cannon and real. Only you consider it comedic effect. I tell you, only with training can a logia transform on reflex.
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Post by Chulance Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:27 am

No It'sa fact and you'll never change my mind on that no matter how hard you try my friend.
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Post by Zero Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:20 am

This is still going on? Your mind =/= fact. Sorry.
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Post by Chulance Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:01 pm

You know what
OP wins this I'm not going to give in just because people support DBZ. I'm not going to change my mind so agree to disagree kay?
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